• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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    Valve has made an emasculatingly large amount of money this way. Following in the footsteps of Id Software, Valve has been very open with their development tools. I don’t know about the very earliest copies but the ZOMG GOTY edition of the original Half Life included its SDK on the disc. Counter Strike and Team Fortress started out as mods that Valve just…hired.

    Releasing the tools to their customer base and then hiring the cream that rises to the top is a strategy I struggle to get mad at.

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    A few takeaways from the move:

    • Any modifications must be released as mods
    • Players downloading the mods must own the base game
    • The mods must be free and no aspect of the mod can be monetized.
    • The mods can now access TF2 steam inventory for cosmetics and weapons (but cannot modify the inventory)
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      Ugh, greedy Valve making you spend $0 to buy the base game

      [Edit] ok I read the article after making that joke and I see that it applies to several other valve games, not all of which are free to play

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        Lol. It’s so greedy of them!

        Jokes aside. It’s an interesting distinction to make. Even though the source code is freely available, it doesn’t mean developers have free reign to do anything they want like they could with open source software. Apart from special circumstances, everything made with the source code will still be mods.

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        Yeah, as a resident Valve hater I agree it’s a weird thing to get angry over.

        If there was anything to get angry over is that I bought this game in a box (stand alone because I was too broke for Orange Box!) with an understanding that it’s an online multiplayer shooter. Meaning, there are servers you join manually from a list, shoot at other guys for a bit and return to that server or not based on how good time it was. This functionality has been ripped out of the game and replaced with some weird algorithm. Before that Valve broke their own design promises of clear silhouettes which made the game less accessible. The game has been dead, riddled with bots farming in-game items that can be traded for real money that Valve added to the game because they could. If it was any other game I wouldn’t care but TF2 started out as an amazing game that was mangled beyond recognition by Valve greed.

        They should have released TF2 source code this way 10 years ago. They’re probably doing this now because income from TF2 related items on Marketplace is laughably small compared to their other titles.

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          This functionality has been ripped out of the game

          Nope, see the server browser ingame

          The game has been dead, riddled with bots

          Not anymore!

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      Isn’t this how they all are? L4d and l4d2 are the same unless you’re hosting a server with .smx plugins.

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        Sort of, but those let you use the pre-existing codebase for each game as is. This lets you play with the inner workings. You could do something drastic like implant rollback netcode, add new classes, wild shit.

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    Wow, this is an awesome move! We are honestly so lucky that Valve hasn’t enshittified like so many other gaming companies out there.

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    it only took 18 years and also several years of radio silence after some mod authors asked them to clarify the legality of their work

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      Goddamn, I miss those days! Got a real graphics card for TF2 (edit: I meant TF Classic) so I could see through water. Rocket jumping and cluster bombs, ahhhh. There was a mod with a grappling hook that was amazing.

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    Nice to see Epic isn’t the only company that cares about games. I might check this out just to learn