When I say dead users, I mean ones who have been banned, suspended, or deleted (probably after they got banned). I see this so often when browsing posts, and it is so reflective of the problems I have been faced with as well. I’ll be scrolling through a post, and sometimes unironically like 50% of all comments have the stupid little profile picture with its back turned, and when I hover over it it has either been suspended or deleted.

I have been having major issues where I’ve basically been permanently wiped off the platform over some bullshit permaban and can’t get it appealed, and it is just shocking that so many other people are obviously just getting completely swept away by these same bullshit bans. How is Reddit going to survive like this? It’s to the point where any sort of long-term engagement on the site just seems impossible because soon enough the CIA-level, all seeing AI will catch you in its net and then you’re done.

Even if they miraculously change their system to not have the world’s most oppressive ban system, what happens to everyone who’s already been banned? Will a decent percentage of the entire platform just be fucked for life because they were on the platform at the wrong place and the wrong time?

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    [Reads all these stories]

    Wow, I’m glad I left during the API debacle. Getting banned for an unpopular good-faith post is so frustrating, especially if it’s about something important like Gaza.

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    I think you mean a virtual or figurative wasteland. A literal one is a geographical regionwith little or no vegetation or animals.

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        “Literally” literally means “as written”, or “in the literature”.

        To use the word “literally” to mean “in reality” or “in fact” is not that original meaning, but is literally - in fact, as well as a written thing - a figurative meaning.

        Language changes. There are plenty of words that are their own antonyms. It’s not sad, it’s inevitable, and the sooner you can accept that the sooner you can avert the fate of becoming an old man yelling at clouds.

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            Actually, factually, in truth, for real, fr, no joke, seriously, absolutely, in fact, truly, truthfully, really, in reality, literally, I couldn’t tell you, because only you can figure out how to say what you want to say, and if you didn’t already know that there are countless ways to say that, that makes me wonder if you actually care very much about the topic, for realsies, in actuality. All you need to do is spend a few seconds thinking of another way to say it and you can answer your own question.

            It’s language. If course we have ways of saying things, that’s what it’s for. Also you can say “literally” to mean “actually” as long as you understand how to say it in context, and the fact that you can correct people who you believe are using it wrong is a sign that you can tell the difference and you don’t need to correct them.

            And if we don’t have a way of saying something, you can invent one, because that’s how language works. People who tell you that there’s some authoritative measure by which we know what words mean don’t actually care about language. They’re trying to kill our language, because a living language can’t be controlled like they want. The good news is that it’s impossible to achieve that goal.

            Like if you’re not going around lamenting the fact that “terrific” doesn’t mean “terrifying” anymore then maybe it’s okay if words change. It sounds like you survived that particular tragedy.

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      And crawling with propaganda accounts.

      Check out any political thread or ones about ICE.

      I recently saw a thread about ICE where locals started to revolt and protest against ICE being in the neighbourhood. The thread is filled is “removed by reddit” comments and other propaganda account telling people basically not to rise up. Saying things like “They want violence so they can declare martial law. Don’t give them what they want.”

      Reddit deletes posts promoting standing up for their freedoms and leaves the ones saying bend over and spread your ass cheeks.

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    Their algo keeps permabanning me if I use their Reddit app. I used to bypass it by using patched 3rd party clients, but I’m too old for that nonsense now. I just don’t post or do anything on Reddit anymore

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    Reddit’s started it’s death spiral. It’s all downhill from here. Try starting communities here that don’t exist yet and crosspost stuff

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        Lemmy is reddit on a little delay, we already have right wing activist mods causing trouble with zero consequence

        Good thing lemmy is decentralized then and no single person can ban you and make it stick.

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        There are always going to be bad people, but Lemmy will always be decentralized unlike Reddit. Technically you could spin up a new instance that doesn’t federate with the instances you are trying to avoid.

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            Yeah the Fediverse was built with specifically that in mind. Move to another community or instance, or create/host your own if you really can’t get along with anybody. If the admin of [email protected] is being a cock then just make your own [email protected] and come brigade everyone to go join that one instead. In real life Fediverse lore this has already happened at least once with the fracturing of 196. It’s an intended feature of the system.

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              I find it fucking hilarious how you phrase ‘repeated harassment by activist mods with the tacit approval of the admins’ as ‘can’t get along with anybody’

              Eat your block and enjoy it asshole.

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    They banned and nuked all 4 of my accounts ranging from 8yrs to 2yrs old after posting this about 3 weeks ago.

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      Yeah, I was permabanned from Reddit, just for saying, “stomp Nazis.” After this, I deleted the app entirely. I had issues prior to this. Posts I had carefully written and spent time writing, were deleted for using the word “target,” and the word, “shoot.” Both posts had zilch to do with guns or violence. Saying, “oh, shoot” about a funny autocorrect deleted my post. All this censorship, but somehow right wing trolls were still getting away with being jerks to me?! Wtf! Now I think the app is the most heavily censored thing I have ever encountered. It’s unusable, it’s so censored. What am I supposed to do? Go back and say, “spank Nazis,” instead? At a minimum, it would confuse the message and at worst, I’d get banned for saying that. No, I’m mad at Reddit & I’m never going back.

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      thats such a miniscule reason to ban someone that it makes my silly ban seem reasonable

      I pissed off a mod on a large sub and got a ban for “ban evasion” (BS, i only had 1 account)
      I later deleted and recreated my account to change the name I chose when I was like 13 (I kept being called a furry) and forgot to block the large sub and accidentally sent a comment when browsing r/all

      at that point I was like 50/50 with Lemmy so I just hopped all the way over and it’s been about a year since :)

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        I kept being called a furry

        And obviously you’re more of a slimey, eh TriflingToad?

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    What happens to everyone who’s been silenced on that platform is hopefully they contribute to other social media that aren’t blatantly pro-fash

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    Yah I’ve been perma banned over what I don’t even know, and Reddit won’t even let me make another account, sadly there’s more users and specific subreddits there with relevant posts that I want to engage with but I can’t. I’m hoping this get worse and worse on reddit so that most of the current users jump ship to lemmy

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      Everything I’ve seen has indicated that it is spiralling pretty hard. It seems like it is just bots and Facebook level users now.

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    Yep I’m a reddit refugee

    I was permabanned for saying “bad bot” to a nazi apologist

    Yet when an intimate video of me was being shared without my permission, they apparently couldn’t do anything because it breached no rules

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      I got banned for saying a mod was on a power trip. I was permanently banned with no way to appeal. Been here ever since. Haven’t been back. My wife showed me a reddit thread the other day about a serious topic and every single comment was a meta joke about nothing. I expected to see serious answers like the old days but it was just comment after comment of people trying to be the next broken arms or coconut fucker. I’m all for funny shit but it was all just cringe and my axe bullshit. That place is just awful.

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        It has devolved

        I’m annoyed only because I had quite a number of genuine fans of my content, and reddit was kinda special to me because I’m now engaged to my biggest fan

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          That’s like better than 99% of all bullshit on the Internet. That’s such a cool thing. Reddit isn’t (wasn’t) all bad, but it became the Nickelback of websites. It used to be such a powerful tool for people but now it’s… Just… Whatever it is.

          My mom and step dad met on AOL in 1997 on a game called slingo lol. My half brother just turned 22 and they’re still together. My mom lived in Texas and my stepdad lived in England at the time. There’s always a good side to every thing online but it’s def not the average user experience

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            Oh, we’re half a world apart

            We see each other as often as we can, we’re working on the visa to get her to Australia

            It’s crazy how things happen

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              That’s awesome! If it worked for my mom and stepdad it can work for you two. I wish you the best, regardless of how you found each other. All that matters is you did.

              PS - Reddit sucks regardless lol

              Good luck, friend! Oi!

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                Thanks!

                We’re both older, we’ve been around, gone through some bullshit

                She’s an amazing woman, and I’m grateful every day to have her in my life

                She’s my best friend first and foremost, and so beautiful that the brightness of the sun pales in comparison

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          Google Reddit broken arms and you’ll see. Short version, dude breaks both arms, Mom senses his tension, jerks him off for relief.

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          revenge porn or posting of non consensually released vids is now illegal in many places and reddit can be sued over it

          course it requires some money to do so

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            It was a shitty situation, and it absolutely turned my life upside down

            The bright side is that it gave me the push to do something I’d wanted to do for many years, but I was stuck in the golden handcuffs of my career

            There’s not a thing that I miss about my former life. Even the money was actually starting to become a problem, because it was turning into something that I was chasing purely for its own sake

            It’s funny where you end up sometimes, and absolutely crazy how we can get there

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    They’re going to try to push bot traffic, while keeping actual user numbers hidden. Then dump the stock before saying they banned all their users or someone leaks it. Personally I would like an investigative journalist look into their ban system and do a hit piece.

    The site 15 years ago was great, yes there was trolling, you could call people a asshat, but it was still a good site. Now none of that stuff flies, no joking alowed, it’s like msn comments section. They killed what made reddit great and it was never at the level of 4 chan incels. In fact there quite a few social causes that did some good, all that’s gone. It’s just regurgitated shit.

    It’s no small amount of people who have been permabanned and it’s happening more and more. Some of the oldest accounts are just gone. I gave up even trying to get around it.

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    Why is this surprising?

    There is a life cycle to social media.

    Reddit is approaching Myspace levels of out-of-touch. But that’s to be expected. Reddit sold out and went public corporation. That means everything that they do is 100% centered around making profit for shareholders. A board of rich assholes listen to the same tech assholes that killed off every single other media platform in existence. Why? To make a buck. To squeeze the penny so hard, at the expense of content, users, posts, subreddits, that the penny squeezes out an extra $0.0000001.

    Content is ruined, but who cares? Another nerd will come along and make another one. Businessmen don’t care about the content of a bunch of randos. They care about gutting everything and selling pieces of it off for as much as possible, then eventually selling it off to a control-freak billionaire.

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      So I get what you’re saying, but unfortunately Reddit hasn’t reached Myspace levels of dead yet. It’s still the 9th most visited website in the whole world, and I unfortunately don’t think that’s gonna change anytime soon

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        If anything, it’s growing and taking on a new audience. Reddit was semi-niche in the years before, and is now becoming mainstream.

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    My pet theory is that Reddit is trying the battleship steel approach. Let me explain: Battleships sunk before the end of WWII are special, in that their steel has never been exposed to the radiation from nuclear blasts. That is important in a series of applications, so there is a market for that kind of steel, and obviously it’s a very limited resource.

    Reddit has one of the biggest collections of purely human-generated text that is not domain-specific. That is an incredibly valuable resource, especially now that we know that LLMs hallucinate worse if they are fed LLM-generated content.

    I am thinking Reddit is planning to sell that text for the long haul, until changes in language and technology make the content irrelevant. What actually happens on the platform is not important anymore, as long as it doesn’t cause the ire of the powerful.

    In fact, at this point, Reddit has a vested incentive in making the Internet worse, which means banning real humans from Reddit, too. Current Reddit content is not valuable, because of course it contains lots of bot generation, so making it visibly worse is a quick way to make the old content more valuable.

    Basically, the company plans on getting rich on the backs of yesterday’s you and I.

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      take my gold

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      I just stopped using Reddit after they broke all the good mobile apps. But your comment makes me think that I should log on and run one of those scripts to overwrite my old comments with garbage.

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      The text is public anyone can scrape it. They’ve already used all Reddit’s text in training gpt4.

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    I was banned for talking bad about the current administration, I then deleted my account. Ridiculous stuff.

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      I toasted mine too. Honestly though, just one day over here has been seemingly more normal than what’s happening on Reddit.

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        Been here over a year, and yeah this is the place to be now. I love that if I disagree with how an admin runs their instance then I can just fuck off to an entirely different server, or even start my own.