Post had nothing to do with murder or violence. It is clear who reddit serves.
The monopoly men have worked very hard over the past one hundred years to stamp out class consciousness in the US. They won’t give in without a fight.
Bootlickers is the battle ground
If owners control them, they win
If they gain class solidarity, owners lose
The moment Robber Barons were first stopped, they starting working to rig things so they are never stopped again.
The only way to remind them that they have no such power is the French way.
All Tesla dealerships should be on fire by now. Now protected by a wall of obese ‘police’ that would not pass the most lenient tests to join the police force in any country of the EU.
I was shadow banned from Reddit for making a not violent Luigi post on 12/23/24. My account was older and had high karma. I am grateful to have found this community. The state of human rights in the United States is bleak. I watched my mom die from early onset Alzheimer’s in our broken system and I don’t even have words for the cruelty in our system. How can corporations be “people” if there’s no way to hold them accountable for mass murder? Our system is broken and corrupt from top to bottom and somehow it’s about to get much worse. Luigi gave those of us who are broken and tired a fleeting moment of hope.
My mom passed earlier this year from pneumonia. The insurance wouldn’t let her stay until it was gone. So we had to keep taking her out of the hospital for a couple days, and then putting her back for the same pneumonia, it lasted for months, because the hospital couldn’t fully treat it. She had to wait at home until she was able to go again, and it eventually took her. The pneumonia, stress and everything else was just too much for her heart. She ended up going into cardiac arrest multiple times and the pneumonia sepsis is listed as her official cause of death.
Luigi is a fucking American hero and I wish more people could be like him. I unfortunately have to take care of these kids so I cannot but I will pray for whoever picks up that mantle.
I’m sorry for your loss. They murdered your mother for profit and it enrages me. I’ve personally suffered at the bloody hands of the insurance companies as well. The insurance companies fill me with a cold deep rage. I hope all their leaders know fear before they come to their end.
I have kids as well. I’m no longer religious but I believe in Saint Luigi and pray that others are inspired by his noble actions. Truly.
If you’re willing, please share the name of the insurance company and the CEO that murdered your mother for money.
The real villains are vanguard, black rock and the politicians that keep selling out the people. Things are about to get much worse with the cutting an privitazation ( this means it will be moved to a corrupt dysfunctional shareholder profit model) for medicade, Medicare, veterans healthcare and social security. The social contract is broken and the wealthy have waged war on the people. I was hoping that those doing this would have a wake up moment due to Luigi and ease up but instead the suppression has only increased. I don’t know how to fix this but the attack on the working class is “legal” and any resistance or hope is “illegal” or prohibitively expensive and easily stamped out. I get why people don’t want to bring children into the meat grinder that America has become.
Hyper focusing on Blackrock makes you sound like a conspiracy theorist - there are many groups like it, you have to expose the whole not be obsessed with the one or again it just looks crazy. IMO.
Black Rock, Vanguard and State Street own 74% of the US Economy. Not a crazy conspiracy an easily verifiable fact https://money.usnews.com/investing/articles/these-3-fund-families-control-74-of-the-market
I named multiple sources for our troubles. The biggest firms extracting wealth seemed like good easily verifiable examples. Agree to disagree with your opinion
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I’ve had two accounts on Reddit, one got permabanned a few months ago, and I deleted the other a few days ago. The first one was my oldest account. Over a decade old, and massive karma. I also had my own sub where I shared my writing, and had a few thousand subscribers.
Back when that incel neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes got doxxed on Twitter, I made a joke saying “as an incel, he should be glad that women know where he lives now in case they want to share a cocktail with him”, with a gif of a Molotov cocktail. Permabanned for “promoting/glorifying violence”. I thought it was funny, but fine. That one is on me.
My other account, which was seven years old and had high karma, got banned from probably half a dozen subs in the past week or so for just mentioning Luigi, or even just up voting posts and comments mentioning him. That was when I decided Reddit was no longer for me.
It’s one thing to ban someone for the kind of joke I made. While it was obviously a joke, it was still an overt glorification of violence. So I get that. But just for up voting a comment mentioning Luigi’s name in a nonviolent context?
FUCK. THAT.
Totally with you. Tracking accounts and what they upvote and downvote and then banning specific accounts is pretty well fucked. All-the-while allowing and even enabling bots to flourish… Reddit is a mostly liberal flavored Facebook now. Total trash at this point. Nearly every sub just a bot filled echo chamber inside a library of echo chambers. Almost zero critical thinking. Obvious lies everywhere that are amplified until they become accepted as truth. Just like X/FB/IG/etc.
On a positive side the general public opinion on Reddit is mostly encouraging. It still has that going for it. But power corrupts. And Reddit is a publicly traded company now. Beholden to it’s shareholders and investors. Hopefully Lemmy grows and fills that void now that Reddit has decided to side with the wealthy elite by censoring our voices. Now that Reddit is literally owned by these wealthy elite (just like all the rest) they cannot be trusted anymore.
It’s wild. You can go on Reddit and openly discuss why you think Hitler may have been the good guy, but if you up vote some AI art of Luigi, you get banned.
And when you consider the amount of bots on there… many of which were Russian, and proven to be attempting to influence our elections, these bots go unchecked. But Luigi getting upvotes warrants a ban… holy shit man what a world now.
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You can openly call for the death penalty for people seeking an abortion, or for the extrajudicial execution of immigrants, but Satan forbid you up vote a cartoon of your favorite green hat wearing Nintendo plumber.
It’s ridiculous. Those in power are clutching their pearls really fervently right now. Its funny how they brain wash us from such a young age to believe political violence is never the answer and extremely reprehensible meanwhile they have no qualms as far as using political violence against the working class and poor or any other country that might be in the process of a worker led revolution that works against the capitalist interests of those in power. And non violence may have been working some 60-70 years ago but then those in power quickly moved to implement violence to halt that progress. And i know I can not say for certain but im rather sure that MLK jr would change his tune on political violence if he could be resurrected to see exactly what the establishment did to him for spreading ideas they disliked. I often say that if nonviolence were truly the best way to effect socio political change then those in power would not be making bombs guns hets tanks and all the other military ordinance they profit off of to arm right wing coups in south America, central asia africa and every other part lf the world that the west strips for resources at the expense of the indigenous inhabitants of that land. The cia would just have their field agents instruct these authoritarian militants to enact sit ins and marches.which they do utilize from time to Time but they still definitively use violence as their preferred and final strategy to topple regimes and install vassal regimes when needed
Luigi gave those of us who are broken and tired a fleeting moment of hope.
ahem The Adjuster gave us all that, Luigi was hanging with me all week
Thanks for the writeup, I think I’ve been banned (edit: by admin, mods never banned me) about ten times on reddit over the years and it was always for shit you’d never get banned for on forums run by independents instead of corporations. Especially one owned by spez who idolizes Elon Musk.
You may also enjoy SomethingAwful Forums. The $5 one time to register fee paywall keeps most jerks out. https://forums.somethingawful.com/
Bans are public, and the mods are hilarious: https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php
Imagine someone getting banned for lying on reddit in a Trump thread. Also, mods can add text to your public profile attached to every post you make. Sometimes it’s in size 50 red text. Sometimes it’s a flashing GIF calling the user a moron hyperlinked to an example.
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Whatever your opinion on the topic, posting this kind of thing to social media is a dumb move.
You think that law enforcement, billionaires and their security are not aware of social media and how to monitor and manipulate it?
You’re just making yourself, and everyone talking about this, a target and increasing the chance that someone kicks down your door, if you’re lucky it’s only the police.
The reason that mods remove these comments isn’t because they’re licking the corporate boot. If you let people plan violence at your house then you’re part of it. If you let people plan violence on your servers, then you’re part of it. That isn’t even going into the morality of what you’re suggesting.
Nobody should engage with this and it should be removed. Nothing good will come to you for going down this path.
Saying that the post has nothing to do with violence is pretty dishonest. Why do you think that the person who made the meme used Luigi Mangione instead of Bernie Sanders?
Either way the post didn’t explicitly or implicitly encourage violence and should’ve stayed up.
Why do you think that the person who made the meme used Luigi Mangione instead of Bernie Sanders?
Because Luigi everything has been getting censored by establishment media?
I agree. At most send an advisory message reminding the poster of rules and not to post worse. AT MOST. And I say that as someone who condemns the CEO murder and I don’t agree with Luigi being glorified in any way.
If you think that using Luigi Mangione in a post about the wealthy and elite doesn’t imply violence against those people, then we are simply going to have to disagree and I frankly think you are being intellectually dishonest.
I don’t think the image of Luigi is only about violence. It’s also a recognition of people’s pain at the hands of the ultra rich corporate elite. He symbolizes sticking it to the man, not just blind proletariat mob violence.
Many of us enjoyed the national unity that came from recognizing universal suffering at the hands of the US medical industry.
When did I say blind proletariat mob violence? I said violence. You threw those three extra words on there. He symbolizes sticking it to the man… By way of violence.
You implied proletariat mob violence. See what I did there?
No, I genuinely don’t. I don’t think you are taking this conversation very seriously so I’ll say good day to you.
You’re really good at projecting.
Who’s being intellectually dishonest again??
Counterpoint: why did police and media parade Luigi around as if he were guilty? What if Luigi is completely unrelated to Thompson’s death? Police departments want us to think he’s guilty and violent, his case is a lot more about legal injustice than violence right now. But hell if they want us to think about violence, we’ll do it but in a way that doesn’t empower corporate elites.
It’s also about freedom of speech. I’m on Lemmy due to Reddit bans. Did I imply I was going to be violent? No. Just talking about Luigi will get you banned, Reddit appears to be complying in advance to political pressure. Why else would they care?
I am not defending Reddit. I don’t even use it. I don’t really understand how anything you said was a counterpoint, they are different topics. Regardless of if Luigi Mangione did or did not do it, or if it was or was not justified, is entirely irrelevant to what using him in a meme right now explicitly about the wealthy elite is implying.
The post talks about social media being owned by elites. It’s implying rampant censorship by social media, like Reddit, and also a twist on his story to make him look guilty without due process. I don’t know where you got the implication of violence from, you didn’t explain it yourself.
It does make me feel violently angry! But not because of Luigi, because of the billionaire’s evil actions towards us all.
Why did the meme creator take a well known Bernie Sanders meme, someone who is already fairly well regarded for standing up for the working class, and alter it to show Luigi Mangione instead?
Name the first person that comes to mind when you think of mega social media and news desperately skewing the story to alter due process by contaminating any random jury. Hint, it’s not Bernie Sanders.
Like it or not, the man is a symbol for being fed up with being abused, killed, and sickened for profit. That sentiment transcends violence, which btw hasn’t been proven yet.
A person can be an idol/totem/icon of resistance. The post does not incite violence, nor does it display any violence. It does not break any rules.
Listen, I don’t think the post should have been removed, but I don’t think what you said is necessarily true. While obviously an extreme to make my point, if there was a non-violent quote from Hitler, nobody would bat an eye when it gets quickly removed. Of course Luigi isn’t the same as Hitler, but a case can be made that at a certain point the persons appearance is enough to make a statement, regardless of the quote in the post.
Of course, it’s different because nearly everyone on this platform supports the movement that Luigi represented (myself included).
You are comparing guerilla partisan resistance (from evil) with something that’s being resisted against (evil) and saying they both represent violence.
I think that’s not correct.
Some people that turn to violence in order to protect the weak are (treated as) heros.
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Whose boot am I licking, and how? Could you be more specific?
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I’m stating facts, not shilling anything. I don’t use Reddit and don’t care what they do or do not delete. I’m not advocating for or against Reddit’s position on this meme.
I’m pointing out that OP is either lying or ignorant if they think that this meme isn’t implying violence. That’s it.
You got a lot to learn about how the world works. But if you do understand and you still coming in here with this brain dead take. This is a boot licker behavior and I hope they treat you well enough to shill against your class interest.
I’m so confused. Presumably, you approve of what Luigi Mangione did - please correct me if I’m assuming wrong there. But proceeding assuming I’m right about that, isn’t violence the point?
Based on this I am going to assume you have not experienced enough of the life to understand what this is really about.
So I guess less of a bootlicker and more of a useful idiot then.
Unless you are part of the club… Then you are just shilling your class interest
Hmm
It made you post a comment though, would you have paid as much attention if it were yet another Bernie meme?
For the record, I’m just playing Devil’s advocate above. I agree that using Luigi Mangione in political memes inherently carries the connotation of violence.
I actually commented more because of OP’s insanely disingenuous take on the content. But, I don’t understand what that has anything to do with my statement though. I didn’t assert or deny that Luigi Mangione drives engagement. You might as well have replied to me with “llamas are pretty cute though”.
Let’s try the same text with a Nazi salute. Maybe even a literal photo of Hitler. I wonder if they’ll stay up. (I expect they will)
You have to use his full name “Luigi Mario” so it doesn’t get taken down.
It is because Spez is a corporate shill taking that sweet sweet Russian oligarch and Chinese investor money while he bleeds users and data.
Peter Thiel is an American oligarch. He has funded reddit from the beginning. Then later on Andreessen and Altman.
Which Russian oligarchs fund reddit? And I very much doubt the 3 hundred million from Tencent holds much sway considering how virulently anti-China reddit is.
Apparently, just showing an image of the guy they are pinning the crime on is violence in and of itself. 🤷🏻♂️
He’s just too hot. You must be 18+ to view this sexy, sexy picture 🔞🔞🔞🥵🥵🥵
It’s NSFW in 2 different ways
This is really one of the biggest problem we have. They influence elections, they influence public opinion, they spin the narrative as they want.
But have you throught about the parasite being uncomfortable because peasants meme Luigi tho?
If the billionaires aren’t getting mad at this, they are getting something good from it. Most likely in the form of extreme tax cuts (and the moral type of fraud). They’d have less capital but more for themselves.
It’s not only who they serve that is on full display, it what those in power fear most
They fear it so much that they are ruthlessly crushing it across all social media platforms
I feel like the US at this point is a lost cause. The corpos have accumulated way too much lobbying power over the past few years. They will never allow real progressive candidates win major elections. Democrats now have to play the center in order to not upset the corporations. We lost our last real chance to make meaningful change with Bernie in 2016…
Bernie in 2016
DNC komissars denied us that because it was “her turn”
And they have been denying pro worker candidates ever since.
They’re scared of anything that challenges their position even subtly. So they remove posts like this to avoid questioning the narrative. Hopefully their efforts will backfire with the Streisand effect.
Posting an image of a person who is known to everyone as the (suspected) murderer of a capitalist, whom he explicitly murdered for his capitalistic practices, and referring to a distinct but similar set of calitalistic practices is not “a non-violent Luigi post”. It’s not directly calling for violence, sure. But the connection is pretty clear. If the Right did something like that, we’d probably call it a ((likely intentionally) poorly disguised) dog whistle.
I’m not saying the post is evil and ban-worthy. Which side an action is done for matters. You might say, the ends justify the means. But get your terminology right, and shed the centrists’ illusions. And non-violence is an illusion. This is the propaganda theatre of a class war. And Reddit is fighting for the enemy.
Thats the point. They are banning class warfare; not violence.
Yeah we know, wtf am I supposed to do about it?
