I haven’t looked at the sub in a bit but that sub is actually becoming conservative again. That is to say there are actual conservative minded liberals advocating for the kinds of policy the GOP was pushing in the 1990s not the neofascism of the Trump era.
And yet nearly every single one of them will continue to vote Republican in every election for the rest of their lives.
Liberal fascism has always been a major force behind regular fascism.
What?
Anyone who doesn’t blame all the ills of the world on the secret cabal of people controlling the banking system and the media and who doesn’t propose a final solution of rounding up all these people and executing them is a Nazi.
I would welcome that return to reality even if not sense.
I’m from a very conservative state. They are very proud of and use public land, sometimes daily just like I do. The conservatives I know are not happy about this at all!
That’s very strange. If they value public land so highly, why would they back the party that always aims to privatise everything?
Most conservatives aren’t really economically conservative. They too want police, schools, fire dept, infrastructure etc. to be well funded. There’s just also a nebulous idea that “government wastes money” and they don’t want their taxes taken.
Honestly it’s a pretty clever scam by conservatives. Run on a platform of big government is inept, wasting your money, we need to reduce spending and reduce taxes! Once in office, do nothing. Sabotage functional government. Obstruct long term projects. Now you have things to point to as proof that big government is bad and does nothing, because you were the big government and made sure nothing happens.
Yup, standard fascist procedure. All the Nazi parties in Europe want to be elected to the European Parliament with the very publicly expressed goal of breaking it from the inside to prove that European unity and globalism don’t work.
My conservative former friend said he would never vote for any tax for any reason.
Crazy, but true. No he didnt want anything well funded.
Conservatives are freeloaders. It’s what they don’t think social can’t work.
They know they wouldn’t contribute. They know they would exploit it.
One of the rallying cries of the Republican party that persuaded so many over the decades has always been fiscal responsibility and tax cuts. They have spent decades persuading voters that paying taxes is a terrible thing. They have claimed that bureaucracy is slow and wasteful. That the taxes people paid have been misappropriated. They have corrupted one of the most important things that a citizen can do for its nation. Pay taxes.
Paying taxes should be seen as a prideful act. This small action provides us with innumerable benefits that every single one of us benefits from.
The voting public has been lied to in an attempt to convince them they don’t receive anything from the taxes they pay. This, as most people should recognize, is a falsehood. From the roads we drive on, the water we drink, and the sewage that gets washed away to the security net that allows millions of Americans to retire every year. Taxes are the foundation that has allowed us to become the strong and comfortable nation that we are.
Taxes are the reason we have such a strong military that many Republicans idolize (while many others denounce.) Taxes are the reason we almost every child in this country has at least a cursory education. Taxes are the reason so many can pursue the careers that keep us safe and healthy, like every single doctor, nurse, and everyone else that helps and support them. Taxes are the reason your community has playgrounds for your children. Taxes are the reason so many farmers even have an income at all.
I totally agree with you. Im just sharing one ill-informed viewpoint i have seen personally.
Crazy, but true. No he didnt want anything well funded.
That’s what he says… But does he drive on public roads? Does he use bridges? Does his residence have access to clean water and a functioning sewer? Etc. etc.
Absolutely he did. And he didnt want to pay for it and refused to vote for the taxes to support them.
He also bought an old truck that got 12 mpg and complained about gas prices from then on.
So your friend is constantly lobbying for dismantling the MIC, imperialism, etc.? Or they just don’t want to pay for their violent privileges?
It comes down to a fundamental lack of empathy. It’s “why should I pay for schools if I don’t have any kids” writ large.
“why should I pay for schools if I don’t have any kids”
so that illiterate gangs don’t break into your house to steal your shit or kidnap you.
They’re the kind of people that jerk off to the idea of shooting a home invader
That’s a big part of it. There’s also a lot of ignorance and stupidity.
They’ll be like “I don’t want government in health care” but also want Medicare and Medicaid.
They’re like the “no take, only throw” dog except for taxing and spending.
if you want police funded I’m afraid you’re just a conservative as well. that’s a mainstream socially conservative opinion.
I’m not against the existence of a police force, but I am against what we have now. (USA)
What do you think the difference is? You been watching too much Paw Patrol?
THe biggest difference is “qualified immunity” somehow turning into blanket immunity, followed closely by no duty to “protect and serve”. Paw Patrol takes its duty seriously, and rewards the strength of character to do the right thing and to take responsibility for their actions.
so, reformism? that’s also conservative IMO
So “Defund the Police” is a conservative movement? Huh…
Also, do you realize that “reform” and “conserve” are nearly polar opposites?
Mob justice is considered uncivilized for many reasons. There does need to be some sort of enforcement group of laws.
They should actually be educated on the law, “deescalation”, and put people over property.
police is the definition of mob justice. the police is the armed wing of the state, and solely exists to keep exploitation viable.
ironically, there would be no need for “deescalation” if the state didn’t exist because each community could just live peacefully based on mutual aid. once mutual aid gets too popular in a capitalist society, that’s when the cops show up to prevent the usurpation of state dominion over all living beings.
If they value public land so highly, why would they back the party that always aims to privatise everything?
Fash are dumb enough to think that they’ll be the ones benefiting.
“he was only supposed to sell off national parks in the blue states” 😥
Tribalism and intentionally underfunded education, plus propaganda to push back on whatever independent thoughts may start to creep in.
Abject stupidity. Usually.
Maybe because even in a sane world single issue voters don’t actually exist?
Such a terrible framing.
The leopards are feasting
The libs are lol’ing. That’s how fascism persists.
And what is it that you’re doing?
