An Anti Hero is basically a good guy who is kinda bad, or does good things for bad reasons. Deadpool’s a classic example of an Anti Hero

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    19 hours ago

    Everyone in the Expanse. Naomi, Drummer, Fred Johnson, Bobbie Draper, Chrisjen Avasarala, Monica… Obviously, Amos, Peaches, Miller, and even Holden.

    All of them do reprehensible things. Some did them and made up for it. Some still do them to win.

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      Really? Holden damn close to the platonic ideal of a reluctant hero, with a strong moral compass.

      He wobbles a bit later with all the PTSD, but generally always tries to do the right thing the best way he can.

      Naomi and Bobbi too, Naomi did bad stuff in her back story, but she’s much sutlrer of herself and her sense of right and wrong due to that. Bobbi possibly a very mild anti-hero as she can lean a little blood knight, but not quite anti-hero in my view.

      Drummer and Fred Johnson are much more morally grey, and start out as more antagonists than they end up being.

      Avasarala is similar, but she’s also a magnificent foul mouthed mother. She can get anti-hero status for sure.

      Amos I think is more of a villain protagonist (dueteragonist?) than anti-hero.

      Miller is anti-hero in the Shinji Ikari type.

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    Iirc, the original definition of an antihero didn’t mean a bad guy you root for. It meant a hero in the story that didnt embody the traditional heroic traits of courage, strength, faith in God, noble morality, etc. The antihero is the hero who is not really heroic - a hero who is kind of just a normal person. An example of this being Don Quixote - a man who spent his time fighting dragons and rescuing princesses only in his imagination.

    These days, almost all heros outside children’s books are antiheros. Because true heros are flat and one dimensional and unrelatable and don’t contribute to an engaging plot. These days, it isn’t thrilling enough for us to hear how the knight slew the dragon. He must first overcome… I dunno, his childhood trauma or something… And then he can slay the dragon!

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      I just recently started Don Quixote and have only just made it into part 2, but he doesn’t really strike me as a hero. Maybe in his own head he thinks so. He’s certainly the protagonist, but from what i’ve read so far, he’s been rather antagonistic towards the people he interacts with.

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      51 minutes ago

      The one who hates immigrants, gays, and liberals? Might want to take a little closer look at your favorite character.

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    >does good things for bad reasons  
    >gluttony is considered by many to be bad
    

    kirby. kirby is my favorite antihero

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      To be fair, after the swallowing he sometimes puke. It’s not a total sin, but just a eating disorder.

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    After watching Andor, I guess Luthem Rael fits that title. Dude’s absolutely savage. Forced to use the tools of his enemy to fight for freedom that he’ll likely never experience. He sacrifices good people on order to protect the whole

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      It’s also established that’s he’s an accelerationist. He’s intentionally baiting the Empire to crackdown more brutally on dissent in an effort to forment rebellion among the common people of the galaxy. He fears that if he does not do this, there will be a day when the Empires grip is too tight to escape.

      “It will burn… Very brightly”

      In the end, he was right. The Death Star vindicates his methods. Without Luthen laying the groundwork for the Rebel Alliance, the Galaxy would have been a boiling frog and the Death Star would have led to its brutal oppression for generations.

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      I think he has an automatic negative connotation just because of his many cops etc idolize him, but he’s a fantastic character. In the (Uhh I think) daredevil show and comic he knocked DD out, chained him up with a revolver, and said shoot me or I will assassinate this bad guy. Like “you wanna do the ‘killing is wrong’ shtick? Welcome to my trolley problem, bitch.”

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        many cops etc idolize him

        Which is ironic, considering what he really stands for.

        Netflix’s version portrayed by Jon Bernthal is trully amazing